Meeting Minutes – TWG Meeting February 20, 2003

In Attendance –

 Linda Davis, IDWR
Genna Ashley, IDWR
Sandra Thiel, IDWR
Al Rea, USGS
Steve Garcia, USGS
Ervin Cowley, BLM
T.J. Clifford, Boise National Forest

Via Phone Conference –

 Leigh Bailey, Payette National Forest
Betsy Rieffenberger, Salmon-Challis National Forest
Valdon Hancock, Sawtooth National Forest

 The meeting began at approximately 10:00 a.m., MST

 NEWS TO REPORT

Linda Davis stated that Karen Hanson from USGS has sent Utah’s Watershed lines out for certification.  Linda Davis stated that Karen Hanson said all Idaho linework will be incorporated into the Utah Watersheds and changes will be made if necessary.  IDWR will contact Karen Hanson for the final dataset that was sent for certification.

Erv Cowley stated that BLM priority for watershed review is Big Wood (17040219 and Salmon Falls (17040213).  The Salmon Falls huc will need to be coordinated with Nevada.  Also, BLM has money to spend for delineation work.  They are coordinating with Karen Hanson, Utah USGS to extract the preliminary 5th and 6th field concept lines.

Linda Davis is putting together an I-Plan for Watersheds.  She will send a copy to the TWG group for review when it has been completed.

Erv Cowley stated that the National Spatial Data Clearinghouse is meeting in Washington D.C. in about a month but he will be unable to attend that meeting.

Linda Davis reported that Oregon has a contract to work on concept watershed lines for Nevada.

Dick Jones has offered to take stewardship of the Palouse huc.  Deb Naslund from WADNR has been contacted and Dick will coordinate with her.

There has been a change in stewardship for the Goose Creek (17040211) and Salmon Falls (17040213) hucs.  Valdon Hancock with Sawtooth National Forest is the steward for Goose Creek and Erv Cowley with BLM is the steward for Salmon Falls.  Both hucs were previously listed with Payette National Forest in error.

IDWR has received linework from Dave Pickel, USDA-NRCS, Nevada.  Genna Ashley will forward this dataset to Valdon Hancock, Sawtooth National Forest for coordination on the Goose Creek huc.


HUC REVIEW

Huc 17060202 Pahsimeroi – This huc was reviewed by the group.  There is a composite 6th field that will probably end up larger than the 40,000-acre limit, so Betsy will write a justification for this area.  She will also look at Tater Creek 6th field and decide whether to add it to the large composite and make it larger or keep it as a small 6th and write another justification.  Work is in progress for naming and numbering this huc.  Betsy made some notes and will continue to work on the delineations and bring this huc back for a continuing review.

Huc 17040217 Little Lost – This huc was reviewed by the group.  There are several small acreage areas that were identified and grouped with other areas.  There was much discussion regarding the non-contributing hydrological area at the southern portion of this sub basin boundary that appears to flow to the south and east.  It has been determined that this is a closed basin.  After much discussion the group determined that this huc boundary should be left as is with a justification written to avoid future confusion if this issue should ever come up again.  Betsy will continue to work on this huc and bring it back for another review.

Huc 17060206 – Lower Middle Fork Salmon River – This huc is in progress by the Salmon-Challis NF.  It was not reviewed during this meeting; the Big Lost (17040218) huc was substituted instead.  This huc will be reviewed at a later date.

Huc 17040218 – Big Lost – This huc was reviewed by the group.  There was discussion regarding the Rock Creek area and where to group this 7,500-acre small area.  Betsy will write a justification for the Navarre Creek 6th, with 9949 acres.  Betsy will continue to work on this huc and bring it back for another review.

Huc 17050111 North and Middle Forks Boise River – the group reviewed this huc.  T.J. Clifford and Valdon Hancock went over various name changes for this huc.  In addition, the Queens River 6th and tributary Little Queens River 6th will be moved from the 5th field huc 1705011105 (Upper Middle Fork Boise River) and will be included with 1705011106, to be named, Middle Fork Boise River-Queens River.  T.J. will make these minor changes and bring this huc back for a final review.

Huc 17050120 South Fork Payette River.  The group reviewed this huc.  The confluence will be changed at the Dam area between the 5th fields.  Some 6th fields still need to be added.  T.J. Clifford will make these minor changes and bring this huc back for a final review.

Huc 17050121 – Middle Fork Payette River – the group reviewed this huc.  Continuing work will be done on 24k linework, and attributing this huc.  All acreages were within the specified ranges for 5th and 6th fields.  The draft concept lines were approved by the group.

Huc 17060208 – South Fork Salmon River.  The group reviewed this huc.  Continuing work will be done on 24k linework and attributing this huc.  All acreages were within the specified ranges for 5th and 6th fields.  The group approved the draft concept lines.

Huc 17060210 Little Salmon –This huc was reviewed by the group.  There was one very small name change – Goose Creek will be renamed Upper Goose Creek.  Continuing work will be done on 24k linework and attributing this huc.  All acreages were within the specified ranges for 5th and 6th fields.  The group approved the draft concept lines.

Huc 16010201 Bear Lake - Steve Garcia, USGS has completed the delineations for this huc. He left paper copy maps for review and will send Genna Ashley export files for this sub basin to be incorporated into the master watershed coverage.  Steve will coordinate with Karen Hanson, Utah USGS for edge-matching linework across state boundaries.

Huc 16010202 Central Bear – Steve Garcia, USGS has completed the delineations for this huc.  He left paper copy maps for review and will send Genna Ashley export files for this sub basin to be incorporated into the master watershed coverage.  Steve will coordinate with Karen Hanson, Utah USGS for edge-matching linework across state boundaries.


MISCELLANEOUS DISCUSSION

The March TWG meeting was tentatively scheduled for March 20th and the April TWG meeting was scheduled for April 24th.

Betsy Rieffenberger would like to be on either the March or April agenda for the Big Lost (17040218) and Lower Middle Fork Salmon River (17060206) hucs.

Erv Cowley would like to be on the March or April agenda for the Salmon Falls and Big Wood hucs.  He also has Birch Creek, Medicine Lodge and Beaver-Camas hucs ready for a later review.

T.J. Clifford would like to review the Upper Middle Fork Salmon during either the March or April meeting.  Coordination will take place with Leigh Bailey, Payette NF and Betsy Rieffenberger, Salmon-Challis NF.

Rick Patten, Idaho Panhandle National Forest, is tentatively scheduled for the March 20th TWG meeting.  Genna Ashley will contact him and make sure this date will work for him. 

Leigh Bailey stated that she would e-mail the Big Creek portion of the
Lower Middle Fork Salmon huc (17060206) to Larry Thornton at Salmon-Challis NF for review.


ACTION ITEMS:

Genna Ashley will contact Rick Patten, Idaho Panhandle National Forest and determine if the March 20th review date will work.  If so, this date will be scheduled.

Betsy Rieffenberger will continue to work on the above-mentioned hucs and return at a later date for continuing review.

T.J. Clifford will make the agreed-upon changes to the above-mentioned watersheds and return at a later date for continuing review.  He would also like to review the Upper Middle Fork huc in the near future.

Leigh Bailey will send the Big Creek linework to Larry Thornton at Salmon-Challis National Forest for his review.

Erv Cowley will contact Nevada regarding coordination of the Salmon Falls huc.  

IDWR will contact Karen Hanson, Utah USGS to obtain their final watershed dataset that was sent for certification.

Linda Davis will send the TWG group a copy of the Watershed I-Plan for review.

Genna Ashley will forward Valdon Hancock a copy of the Nevada watershed dataset and also the contact information for Karen Hanson so he can coordinate on the Goose Creek huc.  Genna will also send the Nevada linework to Erv Cowley for coordination on the Salmon Falls huc.


NEXT SCHEDULED TWG MEETING (S):

March 20th at 10:00 a.m., MST
-   Rick Patten, Idaho Panhandle National Forest will be reviewing the IPNF hucs.  Erv Cowley, BLM also plans to begin a review on the Big Wood and Salmon Falls hucs.

April 24th at 10:00 a.m. MST – To be determined


The meeting concluded at approximately 5:00 p.m., MST.